Legislature(2007 - 2008)SENATE FINANCE 532

05/03/2007 01:30 PM Senate FINANCE


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+ SB 72 COMMUNITY REVENUE SHARING TELECONFERENCED
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2:09:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 72(CRA)                                                                                             
     "An Act relating to the community revenue sharing program;                                                                 
     and providing for an effective date."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This was  the first hearing for  this bill in the  Senate Finance                                                               
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman announced  intention  to not  report this  bill                                                               
from Committee at this time.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:10:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman  offered  a  motion  to adopt  CS  SB  72,  25-                                                               
LS0506\M, as a working document.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Without  objection,  CS SB  72,  Version  "M"  was ADOPTED  as  a                                                               
working document.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:10:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman indicated  spreadsheets  were distributed  that                                                               
indicated  the impact  of this  legislation to  each incorporated                                                               
and unincorporated municipal government in the state.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:10:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  commented that the  passage of SB  185 relating                                                               
to  the establishment  of a  "cost share"  system to  address the                                                               
unfunded  liability of  the  Public  Employees Retirement  System                                                               
(PERS)   and  the   Teachers  Retirement   System  (TRS),   "made                                                               
tremendous  progress" in  reducing  the  potential bankruptcy  of                                                               
many local governments.  At a cost to the  State of approximately                                                               
$66 million, contribution rates  for certain governments would be                                                               
significantly reduced,  while the rates of  others would increase                                                               
somewhat. He  collaborated with  Senator Olson  in an  attempt to                                                               
achieve  parity through  the State  revenue  sharing program  for                                                               
those communities that had previously  experienced a lesser or no                                                               
unfunded liability.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:12:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson, sponsor of the  bill, testified he introduced this                                                               
legislation  on  behalf  of  the  Alaska  Municipal  League.  The                                                               
original  version  "presented  the  League's  views  on  how  the                                                               
municipalities  throughout the  state,  from the  largest to  the                                                               
smallest, would share  in the revenues from  our mineral wealth".                                                               
He appreciated Co-Chair Hoffman's decision  to retain much of the                                                               
intent  of the  original version  of the  bill and  commended the                                                               
effort   to   "provide  equity   for   the   state's  help   with                                                               
municipalities, especially  related to  the PERS and  TRS costs."                                                               
This  committee  substitute  was  "a  gigantic  step  forward  in                                                               
bringing  financial  stability  to   our  struggling  cities  and                                                               
communities."                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:13:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TIM  GRUSSENDORF,   Staff  to  Co-Chair  Hoffman,   detailed  the                                                               
committee  substitute.  Section  1 of  the  committee  substitute                                                               
would  amend AS  29.60  by  adding a  new  Article 11.  Community                                                               
Revenue Sharing Program., and accompanying new sections.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Grussendorf  informed   that  Section  29.60.850.  Community                                                               
revenue  sharing fund.,  on page  1 line  6, would  establish the                                                               
community revenue sharing fund by  a transfer each fiscal year of                                                               
the lesser  of $50 million or  "an amount equal to  three percent                                                               
of  the  money  received  by the  State  during  the  immediately                                                               
preceding fiscal year from all  mineral lease rentals, royalties,                                                               
royalty sale proceeds, federal  mineral revenue sharing payments,                                                               
and bonuses." The  funding source would not  include revenue from                                                               
petroleum taxes.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Grussendorf stressed that the  community revenue sharing fund                                                               
would not  be a  dedicated fund and  that appropriation  from the                                                               
fund for  community revenue sharing  payments by  the Legislature                                                               
was optional.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:14:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Grussendorf explained  Section 29.60.855.  Community revenue                                                               
sharing  payments  for  communities.,  on page  2  line  4.  Five                                                               
percent  of  the "available  balance"  of  the community  revenue                                                               
sharing  fund  would  be  allocated  directly  to  unincorporated                                                               
communities.  Each  unincorporated   community  would  receive  a                                                               
minimum of  $25,000 unless sufficient funding  was not available,                                                               
in which  case the  amount would be  equally divided  between all                                                               
communities. In the  event that excess funds  were available, the                                                               
funds would be distributed per  capita amongst the communities in                                                               
amounts   not  to   exceed  $50,000.   The   maximum  amount   an                                                               
unincorporated community  could receive  from this  program would                                                               
be $75,000. The limit was intended  to ensure that payments to an                                                               
unincorporated community  did not  exceed the amount  of payments                                                               
made to any incorporated municipality.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Grussendorf  referenced an  untitled spreadsheet  that listed                                                               
all  unincorporated  communities  and   the  calculation  of  the                                                               
distribution of the funding to each [copy on file].                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:16:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Grussendorf   next  outlined   the  provisions   of  Section                                                               
29.60.860. Community revenue  sharing payments for municipalities                                                               
and  reserves., on  line 20,  utilizing  an untitled  spreadsheet                                                               
that listed  all boroughs and municipalities  and calculations of                                                               
distribution of  the funding  to each [copy  on file].  He stated                                                               
that 95 percent of the  amount appropriated for community revenue                                                               
sharing   payments   would    be   allocated   for   incorporated                                                               
municipalities.  Each organized  borough  would receive  $250,000                                                               
and each  municipality would receive  $75,000 as a  "base payment                                                               
value".  This  information was  contained  in  the third  column,                                                               
labeled  Municipal   basic  Local  Government  Support,   of  the                                                               
spreadsheet.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Grussendorf  noted that  subsection (b)(1)  on line  29 would                                                               
stipulate that the basic payment values  be reduced on a pro rata                                                               
basis in instances in which  insufficient funds were available to                                                               
allocate the full base rate.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:17:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Grussendorf furthered that subsection  (b)(2) on page 3, line                                                               
1 contained a provision to increase  the base payment values on a                                                               
per capita  basis in the  event excess funds were  available. The                                                               
amounts  for each  municipality  and borough  were  shown in  the                                                               
fourth column labeled  "Per Capita Distribution @  $43.27" of the                                                               
spreadsheet.  The second  column, "2005  Population", listed  the                                                               
census population for each community.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:17:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Grussendorf reviewed the provision  of subsection (c) on line                                                               
4, which reduced  the amount allocated as the  base payment value                                                               
for   certain   boroughs    and   municipalities   by   specified                                                               
percentages.  The reductions  correlated with  the appropriations                                                               
made through the provisions of  SB 185 relating to assistance for                                                               
communities  with  PERS  unfunded liabilities.  Payments  on  the                                                               
liabilities  were  established for  each  PERS  contributor as  a                                                               
percentage  of  the  contributor's employee  salaries.  Statutory                                                               
changes  made  by  SB  185 would  establish  the  percentage,  or                                                               
contribution rate, for  each PERS contributor at  22 percent. The                                                               
discrepancy resulting  from those  communities that had  a higher                                                               
contribution  rate would  be funded  by  the State  and by  those                                                               
contributors  that previously  had  a contribution  rate of  less                                                               
than 22 percent.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Grussendorf  pointed out that  each community that  enjoyed a                                                               
decrease in  the contribution rate  was subject to  the reduction                                                               
to the  community revenue sharing  payment and was listed  in the                                                               
subsection  along  with  the   corresponding  percentage  of  the                                                               
reduction.   This  information   was   also   reflected  on   the                                                               
spreadsheet in the fifth column  labeled "State Assistance pay to                                                               
get to  22%" listing the percentage,  and in the sixth  column "%                                                               
state PERS Contrib * Per  Capita Distribution" listing the dollar                                                               
amount.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Grussendorf utilized  the  Municipality of  Anchorage as  an                                                               
example to  demonstrate the calculations. The  base payment value                                                               
was $250,000  and the per  capita distribution for  the community                                                               
of  278,241 residents  was $12,039,488.07.  The combined  amounts                                                               
equaled $12,289,488.07.  The previous PERS contribution  rate was                                                               
61.76  percent,  which   was  reduced  to  22   percent  for  the                                                               
Municipality with  "State assistance"  providing funding  for the                                                               
remaining 39.76  percent. The  amount of  the base  payment value                                                               
plus   the  per   capita  distribution   provided  for   in  this                                                               
legislation, multiplied by  39.76 percent, equaled $4,886,517.59,                                                               
which  was then  deducted from  the base  payment value  plus per                                                               
capita  distribution  amount  to   establish  the  total  revenue                                                               
sharing  payment  of  $7,402,970.48 for  the  Municipality.  This                                                               
amount was  listed in the  eighth column labeled,  "total revenue                                                               
with PERS adjustment".                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Grussendorf qualified that the  total deductions taken in the                                                               
revenue sharing program of $5.6  million differed from the actual                                                               
amount  of $66  million that  the  State provided  to offset  the                                                               
contribution  rate reductions  to these  communities. He  assured                                                               
that the calculation  of the amount for  each community subjected                                                               
to  the  reduction "across  the  board,  it's  the same  type  of                                                               
deduction; for the same percentage".                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:19:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Grussendorf then described the  redistribution of the funding                                                               
reductions to  those communities that either  did not participate                                                               
in the PERS system or  did participate but had contribution rates                                                               
lower than 22  percent before implementation of SB  185. The $5.6                                                               
million total  reductions were  distributed amongst  the eligible                                                               
communities on  a per capita basis  and were listed in  the ninth                                                               
column,  labeled "Redistribution  of  PERS adjustment  per-capita                                                               
(88.18)" of the spreadsheet.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:19:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Grussendorf  noted the  tenth  column,  "Total Rev.  Sharing                                                               
Payment",  totaled the  basic payment  value and  the per  capita                                                               
distribution  plus  the  per   capita  redistribution  for  those                                                               
communities  eligible for  the redistribution.  This column  also                                                               
carried  forward  the  amounts  of  the  eighth  column  for  the                                                               
communities that received a reduction.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:20:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Grussendorf  redirected  attention   to  the  State  funding                                                               
provided  on  behalf of  the  PERS  unfunded liability  of  those                                                               
communities  that  would   have  experienced  contribution  rates                                                               
higher  than 22  percent.  The actual  amount  provided for  each                                                               
community  was  listed  in the  eleventh  column  labeled  "State                                                               
Assistance  pay to  get to  22%". This  figure was  added to  the                                                               
community's  adjusted  revenue  sharing payment  to  achieve  the                                                               
"Total  State PERS  Assistance &  Revenue Sharing"  shown in  the                                                               
twelfth column.  The funding provided  to reduce  Municipality of                                                               
Anchorage's contribution  rate by 39.76 percent  was $26,218,049,                                                               
which,  added  to the  adjusted  total  revenue sharing  payment,                                                               
totaled $33,621,019.48.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Grussendorf  stated that the  thirteenth and final  column of                                                               
the  spreadsheet  was  labeled  "Percent  share  of  Total  State                                                               
Assistance and Revenue Sharing" and  listed the percentage of the                                                               
total revenue sharing appropriation  each community received. The                                                               
Municipality of Anchorage received 30.20 percent.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:20:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Grussendorf continued  explaining the  committee substitute,                                                               
addressing Section  29.60.865. Eligibility.,  on page 4  line 27.                                                               
This language was the same as  that utilized in other statutes to                                                               
establish the  definition of unincorporated community.  The State                                                               
must verify that an infrastructure  existed that would be able to                                                               
receive  and  expend the  funding.  The  community of  Metlakatla                                                               
qualified as a "reserve".                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:21:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Grussendorf  informed  that  the  method  to  determine  the                                                               
population of a  community would be the same  as previous methods                                                               
and  was  provided for  in  Section  29.60.870. Determination  of                                                               
population., on page 5 line 12.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:21:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Grussendorf  alluded to the definitions  specified in Section                                                               
29.60.879. Definitions., on line 21.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:21:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson asked  how the  eligibility requirements  would be                                                               
applied  for  a community  that  had  a  lien filed  against  it,                                                               
particularly those filed by the  federal Internal Revenue Service                                                               
(IRS).                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:22:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Grussendorf did not have an answer to the question.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:22:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Huggins,  noting that the  per capita  calculations would                                                               
be  based on  data from  the 2005  census, asked  if this  census                                                               
contained the most updated information available.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:22:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Grussendorf answered  it  was the  most  reliable source  of                                                               
population estimates.  "Problems" with  the 2006 census  data had                                                               
arisen rendering it unreliable.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:22:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Huggins   pointed  out  that  the   population  of  some                                                               
communities had  significantly increased  or decreased  since the                                                               
2005 census was taken.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:23:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MIKE BLACK, Director, Division  of Community Advocacy, Department                                                               
of Commerce,  Community and  Economic Development,  testified via                                                               
teleconference from an  offnet location that the  agency had been                                                               
responsible  for distribution  of  funding  through the  previous                                                               
revenue  sharing  plan. He  supported  revenue  sharing and  this                                                               
legislation was an improvement to  other plans. He also supported                                                               
the  inclusion of  assistance to  unincorporated communities.  He                                                               
pointed  out that  the population  of unincorporated  communities                                                               
located  within a  borough would  be included  in the  population                                                               
count of that borough. He  supported the fairness relative to the                                                               
assistance provided for the PERS and TRS unfunded liability.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Black identified  the relevance of liens  filed against funds                                                               
allocated to  certain local governments, particularly  those with                                                               
"debt  issues".  An  attachment filed  by  the  federal  Internal                                                               
Revenue  Service  (IRS) would  result  in  the IRS  securing  the                                                               
revenue sharing  funds. Primacy over  debt owed to  other parties                                                               
was less clear.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:25:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT  PRUNELLA,  Manager,  City   of  Wrangell,  testified  via                                                               
teleconference  from  Wrangell  that  he  had  not  received  the                                                               
spreadsheets. He  would provide written comments  after reviewing                                                               
the information.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  assured he  would speak with  the witness  at a                                                               
later time.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:26:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TAMMIE  WILSON, resident  of the  Fairbanks  North Star  Borough,                                                               
testified  in Juneau  in appreciation  of  this legislation.  The                                                               
Borough as  well as  the City of  Fairbanks needed  this funding,                                                               
given property tax issues. She  favored it's consideration of the                                                               
PERS and  TRS cost sharing  plan over other proposals  because it                                                               
was  "easier to  understand" than  multiple bills  would be.  She                                                               
preferred  that  the  funding   would  be  provided  every  year,                                                               
although she  understood that revenue  sharing payments  would be                                                               
lower  or would  not be  made in  years the  State received  less                                                               
revenue.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:27:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KATHY  WASSERMAN, Alaska  Municipal League,  testified in  Juneau                                                               
that she had understood that  public testimony would not be heard                                                               
until  the  following  day.  She  requested  additional  time  to                                                               
distribute the committee  substitute and accompanying information                                                               
to  members and  permission for  members to  comment at  a future                                                               
hearing.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:27:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman reiterated  that the bill would  not be reported                                                               
from Committee at this hearing.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:27:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MIKE FORD,  Alaska Native  Health Board,  testified in  Juneau in                                                               
support  of  the  bill, opining  that  the  committee  substitute                                                               
reflected "a  good step forward".  He explained the  relevance of                                                               
this bill  to the Board.  Lack of revenue for  municipalities and                                                               
unincorporated communities affected health care.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:29:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Thomas  clarified   unincorporated  communities   would                                                               
receive  a  base  rate  of $25,000  plus  additional  funding  if                                                               
available and  that the  maximum per  capita adjustment  would be                                                               
$50,000.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:29:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson appreciated  the efforts  made in  developing this                                                               
legislation. The  communities which he represented  could utilize                                                               
the funding  as "they  feel like they're  out their  withering on                                                               
the vine".                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:30:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Elton understood  the minimum  and  maximum payments  an                                                               
unincorporated  community could  receive.  He  predicted that  if                                                               
less than  $50 million  was available  in a  given year  for this                                                               
program, the  $75,000 maximum payment  would not be  reached. The                                                               
proposed appropriation made in this bill was $48 million.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:30:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Grussendorf  identified two communities, Deltana  and Tok, in                                                               
which the per  capita adjustment calculations would  be more than                                                               
$50,000  if the  limit was  not established  and the  program was                                                               
funded to  the maximum amount  of $50 million.  These communities                                                               
would have received higher payments than some municipalities.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:31:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman remarked  that the  maximum payment  amount was                                                               
intended   as  incentive   for   those   larger  communities   to                                                               
incorporate.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:31:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson  requested  an  overview   of  the  fiscal  notes,                                                               
specifically identification  of those  relevant to  the committee                                                               
substitute.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:32:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Grussendorf  reported that  all the  fiscal notes  before the                                                               
Committee  were  not applicable  and  that  updated fiscal  notes                                                               
would be  prepared. The cost for  Fiscal Year 2008 (FY  08) would                                                               
be $48.1 million and future  appropriations would be a maximum of                                                               
$50 million annually. The appropriations  would be deposited into                                                               
a "pool" with the Legislature determining the amount of annual                                                                  
allocations in a manner "they see fit for that fiscal year".                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:32:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman ordered the bill HELD in Committee.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                

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